Y Pwyllgor Cydraddoldeb a Chyfiawnder Cymdeithasol

Equality and Social Justice Committee

24/04/2023

Aelodau'r Pwyllgor a oedd yn bresennol

Committee Members in Attendance

Altaf Hussain
Jane Dodds
Jenny Rathbone Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor
Committee Chair
Ken Skates
Sarah Murphy
Sioned Williams

Swyddogion y Senedd a oedd yn bresennol

Senedd Officials in Attendance

Angharad Roche Dirprwy Glerc
Deputy Clerk
Rachael Davies Ail Glerc
Second Clerk
Rhys Morgan Clerc
Clerk
Sam Mason Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol
Legal Adviser

Cofnodir y trafodion yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y pwyllgor. Yn ogystal, cynhwysir trawsgrifiad o’r cyfieithu ar y pryd. Lle mae cyfranwyr wedi darparu cywiriadau i’w tystiolaeth, nodir y rheini yn y trawsgrifiad.

The proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included. Where contributors have supplied corrections to their evidence, these are noted in the transcript.

Cyfarfu’r pwyllgor yn y Senedd a thrwy gynhadledd fideo.

Dechreuodd y cyfarfod am 13:29.

The committee met in the Senedd and by video-conference.

The meeting began at 13:29.

1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau
1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Prynhawn da. Welcome to the Equality and Social Justice Committee. All Members are present. I've received no apologies.

13:30
2. Papurau i'w nodi
2. Papers to note

There are 10 papers to note. I just wonder if Members are content to agree all these papers to note, including the one on my reply to the finance Chair on the budget. Sarah Murphy.

Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to talk about the response from the Welsh Government Minister about the women in prison report and looking at what has been accepted and what has been accepted in principle, and I just wanted to raise a few things. So, in terms of recommendation 13, it would be really good to have a further update on the outcomes of the pre-sentence report pilot. In terms of recommendation 12, I would ask that we ask for proof that the information about how prisoners can get in touch with their local representatives is provided to us, as well, by His Majesty's Prison and Probation Service. And also, when it comes to recommendation 15, if we can have further information about the Rehab Cymru framework. And also, I believe that the issue with this is not just about the pathway for women coming out of prison to be able to access rehab facilities, but it is also about the funding and who funds that, because we know that women in England have access to funding and women from Wales do not. So, if we could have further information about how that is being funded.

Okay. All those are extremely valid points. Bear in mind that there will be a public debate in the Senedd on this, and the date has been confirmed as 24 May. So, we'll endeavour to get some clarification on the issues you have raised. Does anybody else wish to raise any matters, either on this report or any of the other reports that we're about to hopefully agree to note? I can't see anybody else, so can we agree to note all those papers, including the one that was sent round in a supplementary circulation? Thank you very much.

3. Cynnig o dan Reolau Sefydlog 17.42(vi) a (ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod.
3. Motion under Standing Orders 17.42(vi) and (ix) to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting

Cynnig:

bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod yn unol â Rheolau Sefydlog 17.42(vi) a (ix).

Motion:

that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Orders 17.42(vi) and (ix).

Cynigiwyd y cynnig.

Motion moved.

I'll now ask Members whether you're content for us to exclude the public for the remainder of the meeting under Standing Order 17.42. I see no objection, therefore we'll go into private session.

Derbyniwyd y cynnig.

Daeth rhan gyhoeddus y cyfarfod i ben am 13:32.

Motion agreed.

The public part of the meeting ended at 13:32.